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Patrik Foil Comp 91 V2

Patrik Foil Comp 91 V2

First impressions – A compact board at 212cm long and 91cm wide. The boards rails are quite parallel meaning the board has a wide tail. The tail is wider than the tail on the comparable  JP hydrofoil Slalom. As I have said before I like the limited paint finish but that is partly because it is easy to do invisible repairs on such boards. This is a full carbon board. 

This board is not made in the cobra factory so it has some unique touches. The mast track seems to be more integrated in the board and it requires a flat mast base nut (supplied). While many brands have opted to have large oval foil bolt recesses and large bolt holes to aid bolt alignment, Patrik have decided to have tight fitting bolt holes. At first I thought it would take a bit of messing around to get the bolts to align with the deep tuttle head of the foil but in fact they were all perfectly aligned from the start. The board does require quite long foil bolts. I am using 80 and 70mm bolts on my AFS foil. While the board only offers outboard footstrap positions there is quite a lot of for/aft adjustment and also on the front straps you can alter the strap angle which is a nice touch. Judging by the strap positions on offer the board is designed as you would expect for race style foils with longer fuselages. With my 99cm fuselage I have been using the board with the 2nd from back footstrap positions. 

The rails are flat sided which allows Patrik to get the volume into a small package but also give some resistance making coming down with the board cranked over during a gybe that bit more survivable.

The board features massive double cutaways underneath the tail which reduce the wetted area under the tail significantly.

Also of note is the recessed mast track. While many other brands offer a shallow scooped out deck in order to lower the rig, Patrik have given a small but deep recess allowing for more volume in the board and adding to the boards stiffness. 

On the water – The foil comp offers plenty of support for even the heaviest riders allowing easy uphauling and tacking. It’s still not a long board and it is possible to submarine its nose if you are daydreaming while wallowing along. If you are not used to getting on such a wide board to uphaul it is a long way across the deck to grab the other side. I tend to either grab a far footstrap or the mast to haul myself onboard while ensuring I keep my harness spreader bar clear of the board. 

Getting flying – The board offers plenty of support allowing you to get into the front strap early. For its volume you still want to get onto a broad reach for take off, remember it is still only 212cm long. The board releases easily (maybe with the aid of the cutouts) it works equally well with moderate sized sails as well as larger sails. When it is windy you don’t need to pump you can just drive the board off a piece of chop. I have used the board with an AFS W105 with R810 and R660 wings. Is it the earliest flying board I have used? Probably.

In flight – The board is comfortable in flight. Once set up correctly there is little left to do but enjoy the flight. It is comfortable in the straps but also surprisingly comfortable with the back foot out of the strap even with large sails. With the wide tail your back foot can still be quite outboard yet still on the inside of the back strap.  The ride is comfortable and controlled at all angles to the wind. Again I should state I am not a racer but the board can point as high as I want and is comfortable on the downwind return journey. Any overfoiling mistakes and drops are easily recovered and the board will tend to bounce back up. Although be aware you may well be traveling faster on this board which makes dropping from over foiling a bit more dramatic.  

Gybeing – It is a wide board so more footwork is involved as you initially step inboard and then across the board. Having said that, I find it easier to gybe than similar sized boards. There is obviously lots of space to adjust your feet. Should something happen to cause the board to come down on its rail the flat voluminous rails can save the day. 

Overall – The Foil Comp is fast on all points of sail. I find many people wind foiling tend to stick to similar sailing angles, just going back and forth, back and forth. On the Foil Comp you really want to go places and cover a lot of water. 

The board suits race style high aspect foils and sails over 6.0m. This is a board that is worth matching with an efficient sail and foil. 

Who is this board for? – it obviously is suitable for anyone with racing aspirations at any level but it is also suitable for anyone wanting to push the boundaries of light wind flight.

The board cane be seen in action here

7 thoughts on “Patrik Foil Comp 91 V2

  1. Hi John, thanks for this very informative feature. The strap positions in relation to the used foil is absolutely crucial information! I wonder how my NP F4 Evo-Foil with its relatively shorter fuselage (<90cm) and 744ccm front wing would feel on this board? Anyway, the foiling-footage from the Costa Brava is also great.
    Thank you and regards from Lake Constance,
    Klaus

    1. Hi Klaus

      I think the fuselage on my AFS foil is 94cm but my old foil is was just 88cm and yet both foils balance in the same way. When I got the new foil I moved the straps forward but had to move them back to where they had been to keep it all in balance. The board has lots of adjustment for the straps. I think you would only need to use the front positions if you had one of those long 115cm fuselages or you were always sailing very overpowered. If you want any other info please ask.
      Cheers
      John

  2. Good Morning and thanks again John,
    the reason why I am interested in a new foilboard is the fact that I have a lot of vertical power on my backfoot and thus cannot sail much farther than 40 K distance a day. If I trim the backwing any more neutral I am not able to take off at all (at 30 Km/h usually) so I suppose the tail of my JP Hydrofoil 155 is too narrow with 64cm. My buddies all sail „doors“, i.e. old formula boards with reinforced finboxes and long fuselages with their foils but are not going as fast as I am (40-50 Km/h) so they tell me they don‘t even need a backstrap. What do you think, what is your experience since you are going quite fast on the videos and sail a similar foil as me. Do you think the Patrik-board being built in full-carbon would survive a catapult airborne at 48 Km/h with a 100Kg sailor like myself? I have a Carbon-laminated noseprotector on my current board and that is the reason why I will never eve buy a serial board from Thailand again since there is no carbon at all but only black-colored glass, that is what I was told any time I had a nose repaired by a local professional shaper (WARK-boards). On the other hand I do not trust a small custom brand when it comes to strap positions and shape in something so new and developping as race-foilboards. The Patrik-board from Ukraine comes closest to a custom with no risk designwise in my opinion. Thank you again and a good weekend. Aloha, Klaus

    1. Hi Klaus

      Sorry for the slow reply, I just noticed your message.

      When you say back foot pressure do you mean you are sailing along with all your weight on the back foot?

      Regards the strength of the boards I did mark mine from a heavy catapult, there was a slight groove at the front of the deck where the mast had hit it but you had to look carefully to see it. But even better is that it has disappeared all on its own. I think with a bit or warmth over the summer the foam has returned to its shape so you can not see the mark at all. I also have a foil-ride 125 made at Cobra and I recently hit a log in the water at speed and I cracked its nose but considering the impact I can not complain. I have not had a problem with the JP carbon boards but the new LXT – that’s a different story. The one I had has been replaced under warranty and I sold a JP fsw and that snapped now the guy has just snapped the replacement board.

      On the foil comp boards both the mast box and the foil box are both proper carbon so they are tough boards.

      Regarding the use of the back strap, I find it is “optional” I use it mainly with bigger sails. With say my 6.5 I only use it if I want to go high upwind. with the 9.0 I will use it if I am sailing for more than 1km. I am 57 and after about 4km I need to gybe to relieve the pressure in my back but a lot of the time I don’t sail far before I gybe as I like gybing.

      John

  3. Hi John,
    very valuable input from your side, thank you again! I wish we had such an experienced and competent WS-retailer around here and not thousands of Kms up north :-). Your gybes are really fluent, I always touch the water and 8-10sqm NP Flight Evo II sails don‘t really help in gybing. The sails are great like the Patrik foil+, by the way. It is important to trim them very low profile in general to be fast, esp. at pointing. We live from gust to gust here on the Austro-Swiss-German border far away from any sea.
    I‘ll see what I will do next year but this Patrik 91 V2 leaves a sound impression on me so far.
    Klaus

    1. Hi Klaus
      I like your description “We live from gust to gust”. It is often like that here, I quite like it as it gives a sense of satisfaction as you can have fun when you know it would be no good with a board with a fin. But I feel quite a lot of the foiling gear is designed in places where the brands do their normal testing such as NP testing foil sails on Maui. I had the v8 flights and they may have been good in steady trade winds but they did not have the wind range I need. It is like when people tell me I should trim my rear wing for lighter winds but they don’t understand I might be flying in very light winds but a couple of minutes later it might be “scary windy”.

      If you have no Patrik shop close by I can supply you with the boards delivered from the warehouse in Germany.

      You didn’t say what you meant about the balance of you board/foil being back footed.

      Cheers
      John

  4. Hi John,
    thank you again, I keep you busy since I have a swollen fat compartiment (Hoffaitis) in my right knee and cannot work at the moment. To be honest, I had to return the NP Flight F4 Evo Foil right away (the backwing wasn‘t aligned properly to the fuselage, incredible but true (any quality control there in the Far East?), it was replaced immediately by my longtime retailer) so I really prefer a local Patrik shop which I regret in this case. In addition, the £ is incredibly strong to the € these days. Then I would need a custom noseprotector from Patrik which makes things even more complicated. In the shop everything is tested on the spot (mastfoot, foil fitting etc.) before I take it back home, that‘s my routine after 37 years of windsurfing at 50 now.
    I am pretty sure the tail-width of my board is too narrow for the big race-foilsails and the very fast freerace-foil. As soon as I get out of the backstrap to head into the gybe the board immediately loses hight and speed so the Patrik 91 would give more stability here as I can see on your videos. A buddy (68y/80 Kg) of mine actually sails a new V8 Flight 8.0 always at the lower end windwise so I do believe that‘s what it is made for. At a gusty spot like our Bodensee the 4 cams of my sails are crucial in getting through 50m windholes, especially at NE-offshore winds we only sail in the summer for safety reasons. The mastbag(?) as we call it of the NP Flight Evo II sails hardly swallows any water so if you are not too slow in recovering from whatever overfoiling or catapult it is remarkably easy to waterstart or pull with the „Easy-Uphaul“ from Chinook even a 10sm sail out of the water, at least for me (193cm). The windrange of these sails is phenomenal, you can sail totally opened and still have a stable unit with your board. Albeau is totally overpowered on one of the marketing pictures with the blue-yellow 2021 Evo II-sails. The Patrik foil+ with its 8 battens (like my older purple 10sm Evo ) looks similar to my sails.
    Thank you again for your help and understanding.
    Klaus

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