AFS 2022 Windfoils
I have been on AFS foils for many years starting with the AFS2 which then became the Wind range, W85, W95 and W105. They all had the cigar shaped fuselage which from memory was 88cm long. The “W” range was then updated with longer 94.5cm rectangular fuselages and a moulded in collar at the tuttle head. And now we have another development in the new 105cm fuselage. Here I will give my thoughts on the progression. This is not a finished article as I am still testing combinations and set ups and I will update this blog in due course.
I should state that I don’t race so my findings relate to comparisons with previous AFS foils and the occasions when foiling with other sailors. One of the things I have always liked about AFS foils has been their “plug & play” nature. There was never any need to shim things, you could choose what wing size you needed, put your foil together and go sailing. Those days are now passed and you now need to do some trimming.
There are now basically two stabilizer (rear) wings and they have been designed to work on the 94.5cm fuse. So if you are using a W95 with the 94.5cm fuse you can just bolt on the stab without any shimming and go sailing. But when you put them on the 105 fuse they require a bit of negative shimming. The foils come with a couple of AFS shims which are just like flakes of carbonfiber. I have ended up putting both under the rear screw of the stab. I am not sure what angle difference that relates to in degrees. But I have since bought a shim kit from https://www.ap3dcustom.com/products/ and I tried to translate the two AFS shims to the AP3 shim which I think is about -0.5’ and I have now moved onto the -0.4’ shim with the 200 stab. Sorry if this all sounds a bit complex compared to the “fit and forget” AFS foils from the past so let me continue in more of a review style.
I got a W95 with a dismountable fuse and a W100 (new 100 mast height) with the new fixed 105 fuse. I have had them a while and used them a lot. To go with the new T bars I have 900, 700 and 560 front wings and 240 and 200 stabs. I also have a cut down V3 stab.
When I got the new foils it was windy and I used the W100 with the 700 wing and 240 stab (unshimmed) and I was amazed at the amount of lift provided. It felt like it had a similar range to my old R810 wing on the 94.5cm fuse. I am heavy at 95kg and in the past with the 700 wing I had to come out of gybes fast to remain flying and I needed more wind to get flying. But with the extra leverage of the 105 fuse the 700 wing flew much earlier and had more glide. Not quite as early as the R810 but close. Also when you run out of power the R810 tended to just glide down to a stop where as with the smaller 700 wing it tends to be a bit more of an abrupt drop (and the 560 even more so). Anyway those first few sessions felt great but with hindsight probably the 240 stab was doing too much work and I think I would have run into control issues as the speed increased.
Finally a day came when I could try the 900 wing with the 240 fuse. I was really looking forward to seeing how early it would fly. It was a patchy 3 to 8 kts so I had to wait for the gusts to get flying and then see how long I could stay in the air for. I would not like to put a number on what wind speed I could get flying in but it was the lightest I had flown in. So after what felt like a successful session I headed in and a slightly stronger guse came but probably only 10 kts. The foil accelerated and accelerated and the height came up and up regardless of my efforts to pin it down until the inevitable crash happened. I have never had that happen in such light winds before. That experience prompted a chat with Kevin Ellway the AFS foil designer and he advised sticking with the 200 stab on the 105 fuse. So I tried the 900/200 wings and it worked well but at times it felt like I was getting “weed strikes” – strange “slooshing” and “glugging” sounds and sensations. A further conversation with Kevin and he said I needed to add a negative shim to the stab to reduce its angle. I have done that and have had no further issues when using the 900, 700 and 560 front wings.
The new longer fuse certainly increases the lift from the foil. It lets you use a smaller (faster) wing in the same conditions. So by comparison the 700 wing on the 105 fuse is very similar to the 900 wing on the 94.5 fuse and likewise the 560 wing on the 105 fuse is similar to the 700 wing on the 94.5 fuse. When I say similar I mean in broad terms of wind/flight range. The fizzle out when the wind drops is a bit different in that the smaller wings slow down then just drop whereas the larger wing will keep going a bit more.
The same stiffness of previous foils remains. The new 105 fuse has a small tail stabilizer on it. You do need to be aware of it if you are in the habit of resting your feet on the fuse when waiting to waterstart as it is quite sharp and could easily cut you foot.
The dismountable fuselage option on the W95 seems robust. I have been told that the fixed fuse version is going to be the standard and that the dismountable version can be pre ordered. I wanted the dismountable version for air travel. I believe that AFS is now the only fully carbon windfoil on the market which for someone like me who likes to keep his foil bolted together all the time is an important feature.
Here is a video of the W95 with the 900 wing in 9 to 13 kts – https://youtu.be/6uWdSjy1lmU
UPDATE
I have used the foils a lot now and a few things have come to light.
The W100 with the 200 rear wing does benefit from adding a negative shim on the stabilizer. I have found that a -0.5′ shim tends to give the foil more stability across a wide range of use. Without it the lift ramps up a bit too quickly as you go faster.
Hi John,
again very helpful information also in the footage from the Maldives (gybing seems a lot easier in that environment.-)). And many thanks for your rigging tips regarding the Patrik Foil+ 11-sail which was easier to set up then expected and seems comparatively lightweight. I hope to ride it soon!
KR,
Klaus
Great information
I only just recently received my 370 and 570 foils with a 200 stab .
Tried a few times but wasn’t able to foil stable and comfortable and actually with out of control compared to my old set up s700/280
I do only have the 94.5 fuselage set up
someone mentioned the 240 stab would work better with the 94.5 fuselage
Hi Peter
I have just bought an Afs foil 95 with 94.5 Fuse and S840 front wing combined with 280 stab. I felt this can get overpowered quite quickly, and was thinking about buying the 240stab?
Have you had any experience with this Stab yet on your setup?
Thanks Rob
Hi
Generally the 240 works well on the 94.5 fuse. You could see what happens if you use a negative shim with your existing stab. Is it a case where the lift is ramping up too much as you go faster or are you having control issues?
Cheers John
Thanks for getting back to me. I have used a negative shim on it and found that the lift was a lot more manageable, when speed was increasing.
Would it be better to get the 240 stab and not use a shim?
Hi Robert
The 240 stab was designed for your fuse, it would be good to have and then you can leave it unshimmed. ie I think you would get more range with a 240 stab.
John
Hello John
What do you find is the best combination for winds in the 10-20 range. You have a lot of options!
Hi Paul
Hmm, yes a lot of options. 10-20 kts would be very nice on with the 700 wing on the 100/105 foil. That would be with the 200 stab. With that combo you should be able to gybe anytime you want and be fine in the gusts.
But if say the sea state was rough and you were having to think about your flight height all the time you would have a good time with the 900 wing on the W95 – 95cm fuse. You probably would end up sheeting out in the gusts but you would be able to do slower more calculated gybes if you are having issues over foiling down the waves.
Cheers
John